tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2206220894855898230.post3422204899293670820..comments2023-10-31T05:46:44.678-07:00Comments on Ruminations of an Aspiring Ecologist: inapropriately addressedKarinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16757213778638431428noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2206220894855898230.post-13928120499822301632009-04-08T13:45:00.000-07:002009-04-08T13:45:00.000-07:00Fia, I'm about 99% sure that the email's author(s)...Fia, I'm about 99% sure that the email's author(s) were not native English speakers, and I think you bring up a good point that it can be difficult to know the proper way to address multiple people.<BR/><BR/>When I wrote letters to unknown audiences as a child, I was taught to address things "To whom it may concern," though I have not seen that used recently. "Dear sir or madam" was the other alternative.<BR/><BR/>I am surprised that you were taught to write "Dear Sirs" since colleagues is a non-gendered word in English.<BR/><BR/>Since you're right that they probably that English was not their first language, I wrote them explaining how their address may be interpreted and an email explaining the more polite way to address such an email. I hope that helps.Karinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16757213778638431428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2206220894855898230.post-83090148613036543352009-04-08T13:23:00.000-07:002009-04-08T13:23:00.000-07:00I bet the students who wrote that mail were not en...I bet the students who wrote that mail were not english native speakers. <BR/><BR/>I am not and I actually learned at school (yeah, that's some time ago) that "Dear Sirs" is the proper way of addressing people of unknown gender in letters. <BR/><BR/>I found out that this is not the case (any longer?) when I did that and got told (rather rudely) by the recipient that she's actually female, and it made me feel very stupid.<BR/><BR/>As a non-native speaker with few contact to the english speaking world, it is always a very difficult to find out what is actually convention and what not (any longer), and what is polite and what is considered rude. So we learn things at school, never use them, and then when there is the chance to use these formalities all of them are suddenly wrong. <BR/><BR/>And one couldn't guess what would be more polite. Because, for me, "colleagues" implies only male colleagues (because in my native language, we have a female form for colleague, too) and I would expect that it is unpolite for native speakers, too. So in some cases, it is not possible to guess for a non-native speaker what would be correct.Fiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021925968809125246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2206220894855898230.post-29928591363270661842009-04-07T18:47:00.000-07:002009-04-07T18:47:00.000-07:00I swear I got that same email! I thought it was s...I swear I got that same email! I thought it was spam/a virus!EcoGeoFemmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11236907917990309659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2206220894855898230.post-35961682441359018622009-04-07T17:43:00.000-07:002009-04-07T17:43:00.000-07:00I'd say the title "Dr" from IACUC would a 100% cer...I'd say the title "Dr" from IACUC would a 100% certainty at my insitution...grad students are not permitted to be the PI on that, no matter what! Your advisor is PI and you are personnel. but, at least that's not insulting..."Dear Sir"?!? jeez, what decade is this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com